YNAB Review

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Is YNAB a game? Well, no. But I did originally by it on Steam so it’s like a game? Is it a budgeting game? Well, actually it’s one of the best examples I have of good gamification. (Shudder, that word is way overused.) By gamification, I don’t mean turning a serious thing – like finances – into a game by adding robots or points, but actually creating an interface that makes you want to do certain things. In this case it makes you want to manage your money – honestly – it’s fun to budget with this.

So what is YNAB?

This is the opposite of Mint. Mint tells you where your money went and then you categorize it. If you want to know what you’re spending your money on then Mint it great. If you actually want to budget the money you have and therefore spend it responsibly, I recommend YNAB. (You Need A Budget)

How is this even remotely like a game?

Well you start off by adding all the money you own. Say you have 100 dollars. Now at the top in green you see you have 100.00 “To be budgeted” – this is the game bit.

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The goal is for that green number to always be 0. If it’s under you’re in trouble because you don’t have enough money. If it’s over 0 you’ve got money that needs categorizing.

Next you make the buckets to put your money in. That’s the whole idea of YNAB. You put all your money into buckets first and then as you spend money on certain things, you take that money only from that category.

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For this example, I simplified their default categories into three items: Bills, Fun Stuff, Savings. (Yes you “spend money into savings!”) You got your Rent and Internet, your Food and Games, and your Gifts and Travel. Basically the “game” is to put all your money in these categories until you reach 0.

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You’ll notice the 100.00 is now 30.00 as I’ve “spent” money into several categories. Once you’re at 0. You’re ready to start spending money. Every time you buy something, you say which budget item you took it from.

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So here I got my amazingly low 5 dollar Comcast bill for my internet (perhaps I’m only paying part). I label that money “internet” and it gets pulled out of the internet bucket. My green number stays 0. but the internet budget, which had 5 dollars in it, now has 0.

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When you get more money in, then your budget number goes up. And you have to get the number back to 0.2016-05-11 10_20_07-YNAB

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I’ve been using YNAB (on and off) for over four years now and I couldn’t be happier. I feel like I know what I’m doing with my money and when a big bill comes in, I don’t panic to pay it because I’ve already saved that money – I just added a little bit with every paycheck.

A Real Life(ish) Example

Since January I’ve been putting money towards my upcoming move. Which I knew would be expensive and while I’ll get a lot of my previous deposit back – that won’t be until after I complete my move so I can’t use that money to pay for my move. I needed to save money for the initial deposit, renting boxes, and the price of movers. Every month I added a more money into that category – but when a moving expense came through I took it out of that category.

  • Jan +400.00
    • -50.00 (Application fee)
    • Total: 350.00
  • Feb +400.00
    • -0.00
    • Total: 750.00
  • Mar +400.00
    • -1000.00 Initial Deposit
    • Total: 150.00
  • Apr +400.00
    • -200.00 (Boxes & Tape, Moving Truck Deposit)
    • Total: 350.00
  • May +200.00
    • -500.00 (Moving Truck)
    • Total 50.00

Since my move is over, I took remaining balance out of there and added it to my Dining Out category (I found myself eating out a lot more when I packed all my dishes and food). I then hid the category because I don’t need to use it any more.

The Good

The main reason I like YNAB is that I can “spend” money into savings. I found that I didn’t value money that was just sitting around and tended to spend. So now I have lots of ‘savings’ category. My moving category was one, I also have Travel, Gifts, Charity, Emergency, Medical, and Car categories in my savings. This are big ticket items.

Some people who are better at hording money like it for other reasons, like they get to “spend” a tiny bit of money on themselves from time to time since they know all their money has a purpose.

I have categories for those yearly expenses – my auto insurance used to hit me hard every six months since I paid it all at once rather than monthly. Now I pay it “monthly” into my category and then pay it to the company all at once for the extra discount..

I also love that new YNAB will sync with my bank. Previously I had to input everything into the system by hand. Which was great, when I remembered to do it. And cause me to forgot to use YNAB for months at a time. Now I just click the sync button every week and and categorize my expenses. If I was running close to my budget I would want to do it more often.

YNAB Game(s)

In addition to the “make it 0” game, there’s a new one they added recently called “Age of Money.” Basically it tells you how long money sits in your account (from the time you put it in, till you pull it out.) The older your money the more you’re not living paycheck to paycheck.

Back when I started on YNAB I was living paycheck to paycheck and every time money came in I rushed to add it so that bills due that month would be paid. Right now, my money is 61 days old. (That’s two months!).

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The final game I call “wack a mole.” You aren’t locked into your budget plans. You can move money from one category to another. Early on I had to do this a lot since I had no idea what a good number for my “house stuff” budget would be.

Now I have a better idea, but things crop up – say a new sims expansion – and I might need to move money around. I take money from Dining out and then put it into Games and Books. It means I will go out to eat less this month, but I have the latest game. As long as my 0 number doesn’t go negative, it’s all money I have so I can spend it where I will.

The Bad

YNAB isn’t for everyone as much as I want it to be. First off there’s the price. You can try it out for 34 days free and I recommend you do – it can’t hurt to see if it works with your life. Previously versions of YNAB were a one-time fee of 60 bucks. Now they’ve moved (like everyone else) to a yearly subscription model. That pricing model won’t work for everyone.

It’s also an online program now instead of a desktop which comes with its own limitations especially if you have limited internet access. Also this online version of YNAB is still relatively new (it came out over Christmas) and so they’re still working to give it all the feature the previous version had. (I miss the graphs).

There was a strong – almost fanatically – YNAB following on their forums. A lot of them don’t like the new YNAB or struggled with it early on. The previous version worked well for them and I don’t think the community is as strong around the new app. I like it, but I didn’t really have any problems transferring over.

15 comments

  1. This sounds interesting but that $60 is a big yikes for a budgeting app! I’m always in debt so I wouldn’t “win” for years, LOL.

    But, oh, maybe not since this is about what you do with your INCOME, not just total amounts. I’ll take a look, maybe!

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    • Yeah – it’s a major downfall of the app. I got it on a steam sale for 20bucks which was just cheap enough for me to risk it. Now I’m hooked, but it also got me out of debt. So the price tag isn’t so painful anymore.

      It can’t hurt to try it for a month and then drop out and use what you learned on your own.

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    • So true!! It’s pricey 😦

      Ooh a time budgeting app. That would be epic and totally useful. Especially if it could make you stop doing what you were doing (playing sims) when the time was up and go grocery shopping or something that I avoid like the plague.

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  2. I really love YNAB. I’ve been using it for at least 2 years, and I didn’t mind the changes at all for the new version although it did take a little getting used to. For me, it has been a great tool and well worth the money.

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    • I am the same way! I’m still waiting to be able to add to a budget without doing math, but I found a workaround the other.

      Great to find another fan. I have been talking to folks irl about it ever since I ran across it. Totally agree it’s worth the money. Although I’d love it to be free so everyone could use it.

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  3. I agree it’s a pain to have to figure out how much to add when a category needs more. I think it’s a family business, that they developed the software and now distribute it. They are very passionate about their mission, I think. I used to use Quicken and then when Mint took over Quicken, it was nice it was free, but I missed the planning aspect of Quicken. In my opinion, YNAB is revolutionary and light years beyond even what Quicken offered. I was thrilled to see your review!

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    • I used mint for a while, but it never felt right. I never tried quicken but I hear good things about it.

      If you’re curious…if you type in the current category balance and then add the amount you need to add it does work. So typing 200.00+15.44 will put 215.44 in the category. Not ideal, but better than doing math if you know how much you want to add.

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    • I fully agree it’s a small development team that loves their product. And all the pros and cons that go with it…their texh support right now needs a lot of help. But the product is quite good.

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  4. This is cool. I have a spreadsheet that does exactly this but with more detail. The only problem I have with the spreadsheet at things like this is that they aren’t portable, and I’m not good with the envelope system. At least Mint and all the others have apps I can put on my phone. If these folks ever came out with an app, I may be interested in spending $60.

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    • They actually have an app – I used to use it all the time with their last version, but I’ve gotten lazy now that it syncs with my bank. I can trust myself not to blow my budget if I sync every Monday. I don’t know who well their new app is with this new version is. It’s free at least…since you have to buy the big version to use it.

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